The head of the MTA said he remained optimistic that President Donald Trump would not repeal New York’s congestion pricing program, even as the new president had conversations with Gov. Kathy Hochul in recent days about the plan’s future.

First, Lieber said it could spook bond buyers in red states, like Florida and Texas, where tolling programs depend on the same kind of federal approval congestion pricing does. “If the bondholders think that this might be taken apart on a moment’s notice,

President Donald Trump and New York Gov. Kathy Hochul have spoken about ending congestion pricing, a highly-placed source said.

President Donald Trump has maintained his opposition to congestion pricing in New York and has spoken to Gov. Kathy Hochul (D-NY) twice in the past week about it. Hochul wants to keep the program, which has resulted in 1 million fewer vehicles entering the congested spots in Manhattan since its start on Jan.

New York City’s congestion pricing program has been in effect for nearly a month, charging drivers $9 to enter Manhattan south of 60th Street. While some residents say traffic has improved, the Trump administration is reportedly considering pulling federal approval for the tolling plan.

Trump and Hochul had spoken on Monday about a range of issues in a pre-arranged call, the New York Post reported. The president and the governor spoke again on Thursday to discuss congestion pricing specifically.